Enneagram 8 and 9 Relationship 
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Type 8 – The Challenger Who Protects
Protective, Leader, Champ, Rebel, Takes Command, Expert at Negotiations, CEO
Type 9 – The Negotiating Peacekeeper
Diplomatic, Gregarious, Modest, Humble, Peace-Lover, Mediator
Core Patterns of Type Eights and Nines
Type Eights and Nines have some opposite core patterns. Eights tend to be vibrant forces to be reckoned with. They are dominant and brawny.
They come off as being tough and hide their inner vulnerabilities. They are natural-born leaders who have “take-charge” personalities.
Type Eights are exceptionally assertive and tend to dominate virtually any situation they find themselves in.
They love the praise and comments they receive about their bravado and wish to be admired for it rather than feared or stifled.
Type Nines are quite easy-going at the opposite end of the spectrum.
They try to exercise patience and keep the peace whenever possible.
When looking at a problem, they try to understand multiple perspectives and remain mellow.
Nines have a lot of trouble identifying and expressing their personal needs.
Values Shared by the Type Eight and Nine Pairings
Both Types Eight and Nine are dictated by the Intuitive (or Gut) Triad.
They both value their independence, and they share strong instinctual feelings that help guide them.
Eights, however, is much more self-assured than their Type Nine partners and can sometimes intimidate them, but Type Nines have the calming powers that can keep their Type Eight partners under control.
They both love the creature comforts of home and they both prefer simplicity over ornamentation.
Type Nines have the gentler connection to self and regularly practice self-care.
As a couple, Eights and Nines can develop a close, intimate relationship that is profound in being in tune with the other person.
They both instinctually create nurturing home and work environments that feel safe and secure for both parties.
How Types Eight and Nine Complement One Another
The coupling of Types Eight and Nine appears from the outside to be opposite in most ways.
However, their relationship is dynamically symbiotic in the same way that fire and rain are.
When in the company of Type Eight, the Type Nine can let his or her guard down and relax.
When with a Type Nine, the Eight does not feel the need to demonstrate bravado and feels more mellow and at peace.
This is another example of a couple in which the partners provide each what the other lacks, creating an uncanny balance.
A good example is how a Type Nine can be an oasis of relief from the intensity of a Type Eight who continually feels pressured to demonstrate bravado and bigger-than-life strength.
Type Nines are very impressed with their partners’ confidence.
On the other hand, Type Eights can achieve the assertive leadership skills that tend to remain hidden on the part of the modest Type Nine.
They can use their opposition to reach a personal and professional balance.
Ways in White Type Eights and Nines can Get Into Trouble
The Intuitive or Gut Triad is tantamount to anger and is called, by some, the Anger Triad.
Both of these personality types can have intimate relationships with anger.
However, how it is expressed by each personality type is quite different from the way the other expresses it.
Type Eight is most often the most direct person regarding anger.
Nines dislike anger strongly and beat around the bush of avoidance when it comes to expressing it.
In fact, they can go for hours or even days without even realizing that they are angry.
The Gut Triad is also the Anger Triad, so both Eights and Nines can have a strong relationship with anger, although how this anger is expressed by each type is quite different, which can lead to trouble in paradise.
The Eight is most often direct, while the Nine is indirect or unaware of their feelings of anger.
This leaves the Nine in a potentially passive-aggressive position with an Eight.
While on the other hand, the Eight express their anger easily, potentially overwhelming the Nine.
Eights can view this response in Type nine as being too easygoing.
This attitude can be met with strong resistance from an offended Type Nine.
When this type is pushed by another person that they perceive as being manipulative or controlling, Type Nines tend to dig in their heels and refuse to budge.
They are also known to sabotage their Type Eight partners to present them with a rude awakening.
Eights does not like the perception of the Nine as being anything other than permeable and sweet or easy-going.
When resistance presents itself, all hell can break loose in the relationship.
While Nines are relaxed and sweet-natured, they can definitely push back against Type Eight’s boorish nature.
This throws the Eight-way off-kilter, and they may react in a volatile way from the shock of their docile Type Nine demonstrating resistance against what the Nine interprets as tyranny.
Nines can be in for a rude awakening in these circumstances, however. There is nothing as fierce and confrontational as Type Eight when challenged.
Another way that these two can find themselves in a troubling area is when the Type Eight, who is always seeking a new, more intense experience, begins to feel bored or fenced in by the timid nature of the Nine.
They begin to feel as though their partners are holding them back from realizing their visions, and Nines can perceive their partner’s behavior as a way that pushes them too far away from their comfort zones.
The sad result could be the deterioration of the relationship as Type Eights become more belligerent, angry, and confrontational.
Nines will go on a psychological strike and detach from their partners completely, and thus the vicious cycle begins, where attack and resistance destroy the relationship altogether.
This is where the immobile wedge appears between them, and rather than being susceptible to repair, the entire relationship falls in unfixable disarray of anguish and despair.
What Types 8 and 9 Need to Be Aware Of
Whether in a professional or a personal union, Type Eights needs to be dealt with as directly as possible.
This type does not beat around the bush and tends to cut straight to the chase.
When someone does this, they instantly lose Type Eight’s respect.
Type Nines need to be aware that, regardless of the nature of their relationship with a Type Eight, they need to be as direct and honest with them as they can be, even if the news is bad or what they have to say is bound to cause an angry outburst.
Otherwise, the outcome could be even worse.
This is why Type Nines should lose their propensity to avoid being honest, to try to avoid conflict, and go ahead and risk the conflict.
Type Eights need to be aware that even though Nines can be docile and non-aggressive if pushed too far, they will rebel.
Sometimes, they rebel quietly without a loud brouhaha and will do things to jeopardize their Type Nine partners on the job or behind their backs to make it appear that whatever happens is so spontaneously as they, the Type Nines, feign innocence.
The only way to avoid these types of conflicts is through open, concise communications that reveal who each type is deep within the recesses of their emotions.
Neither of these types cares for surprises. Knowing what comes next is a key element in the success of this relationship.
How Types 8 and 9 Can Support Themselves
Generally speaking, Type Nine personalities comprise key team players in type Eight’s games.
They do so without protest and wholeheartedly until they feel bullied.
Eights should be aware of their tendency to overwhelm their partners with too much information, bullying, or impulsive reactions to things.
They should never assume that Nines will state everything they are feeling and offer support to them by asking about their states of mind and opinions.
Eights should be mindful of their tendency to inundate the Nine with information or alarm them with impulsive behavior.
Do not assume that just because the Nine hasn’t spoken up means, they have nothing to say.
If ignored for too long, the Nine will become a stubborn force to be reckoned with, capable even of withstanding the fierce onslaughts of an Eight.
Nines can best support Eights by not trying to outdo or overpower their need to lead.
They should show outward respect while, at the same time, respecting their boundaries.
This is another case in which communication can be the key to offering the best support to one another, thus strengthening their bonds as a couple.
Conclusion
In a couple where one partner is quiet and withdrawn, such as Type Nine, and the other partner is outgoing and commanding, such as Type Eight, both must always keep the center line in sight and strive for an emotional balance.
Together this couple can thrive and accomplish a lot.
Wars can arise, and they can become volatile and destructive, each in its own way.
When communication is utilized clearly and concisely, each can avoid the types of confrontations that have the potential to end their partnership.
It isn’t difficult to do once both parties are apprised of this.
Communication is the key to this type’s happiness and longevity.
